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Floors or Cabinets First in a Kitchen Remodel?

Oak flooring stopping at kitchen cabinet toe kick

It depends on the flooring. Tile and nail-down hardwood go in first, running under the cabinets. Floating floors, meaning laminate and click-lock luxury vinyl plank, go in after the cabinets and stop at the toe kick. Getting this backwards costs $800 to $3,000 to correct, and the mistake is not symmetrical: installing a floating floor under cabinets is the one that actually damages the floor.

We sell the cabinets and the flooring from the same Derwood showroom and H&C Construction installs both, which is why we see this error when somebody else sequenced the job.

The rule, by flooring type

Flooring Order Why
Ceramic or porcelain tile Floor first, under cabinets Rigid, bonded, does not move. Also protects against dishwasher leaks
Nail-down solid hardwood Floor first, under cabinets Fastened down, cannot expand under load
Glue-down LVT or vinyl Floor first, under cabinets Bonded, does not move
Floating laminate Cabinets first, stop at toe kick Must expand and contract freely
Click-lock LVP Cabinets first, stop at toe kick Same: weight on a floating floor pins it

Flooring meeting cabinet toe kick with bare subfloor

Why a floating floor must not go under cabinets

A floating floor is not fastened to anything. It expands and contracts as a single sheet with the seasons, which is why it needs a quarter-inch expansion gap at every wall. Set two tons of cabinetry and stone countertop on top of it and you have pinned it in place. The floor still wants to move, and because it cannot, the joints lift, buckle or separate somewhere in the middle of the room.

This failure appears six months to two years later and it is not repairable without removing the cabinets.

Why tile and hardwood go underneath

Three reasons. Dishwasher height: a dishwasher sits on the finished floor, and if the floor stops at the cabinet line, the dishwasher sits lower than the counter opening and may not fit or may not come out again without damage. Leak protection: a dishwasher or sink leak that reaches a bare subfloor under the cabinets is a far worse problem. Future changes: a continuous floor lets you change the layout later without a patch line.

What it costs to correct

Mistake Correction cost
Floating floor installed under cabinets $1,500 to $3,000 and removing the cabinets
Tile stopped at the cabinet line, dishwasher does not fit $800 to $1,800 to build up or re-tile the bay
Hardwood stopped at the line, later layout change $600 to $1,500 in patching and blending

For the related question see do you lay flooring before installing cabinets covered here, and for the install labor, cabinet installation labor cost.

Frequently asked questions

Should flooring go under kitchen cabinets?

Tile, nail-down hardwood and glue-down vinyl should run under the cabinets. Floating floors such as laminate and click-lock LVP should not, because the cabinet weight prevents the expansion they require.

What comes first in a kitchen remodel, floors or cabinets?

Floors first if you are installing tile or nail-down hardwood. Cabinets first if you are installing a floating laminate or click-lock vinyl floor.

What happens if you install cabinets on a floating floor?

The floor is pinned and cannot expand, so the joints buckle, lift or separate, usually six months to two years later. The repair requires removing the cabinets.

Does flooring under cabinets waste money?

It costs more in material, typically 10 to 15 percent extra for a kitchen, and it buys correct dishwasher height, leak protection and the ability to change the layout later. For tile and hardwood it is the standard practice for good reason.

Where should a floating floor stop?

At the toe kick, with the expansion gap left intact and covered by the toe kick itself or by shoe moulding. It should never run beneath the cabinet boxes.

Sequencing a kitchen? Decide the flooring type before the cabinets are ordered, not after. Bring both choices to our Derwood showroom and we will order them in the right sequence. Call (301) 939-0009 or book a showroom visit.

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The Bathroom Remodel Process: What Comes First

Bath project binder with material selections in sequence

A bathroom remodel runs in nine stages and takes two to four weeks on site. The order is demolition, rough plumbing, rough electrical, inspection, substrate and waterproofing, tile, fixtures and vanity, glass, then paint and trim. Nothing in that sequence can be reordered, and the two things that actually control your schedule are both decided before anybody swings a hammer: whether the plumbing moves, and whether your materials arrived.

The nine stages

# Stage Days Notes
1 Demolition and disposal 1 to 2 Where surprises surface
2 Rough plumbing 1 to 2 Longer if anything moves
3 Rough electrical and ventilation 1 Fan, lighting, GFCI circuits
4 Inspection 1 to 5 Calendar time, not work time
5 Backer board and waterproofing 1 to 2 The stage nobody sees and everything depends on
6 Tile setting and grouting 3 to 6 Cure time between setting and grouting
7 Vanity, toilet, fixtures 1 to 2 Finish plumbing
8 Shower glass 1 Templated after tile, so it arrives 1 to 2 weeks later
9 Paint, trim, final 1 to 2 Punch list

Bathroom build stages framing membrane finished tile

The two decisions that set the schedule

Does the plumbing move? Keeping the drain and the valve where they are is a two-day rough-in. Relocating a toilet or moving the shower to a different wall means opening the floor, re-routing drain lines to maintain fall, and a more involved inspection. That single decision is worth one to two weeks.

Did the materials arrive? Tile that is backordered stops the job at stage six with everything demolished. Glass is templated after tile is set, so there is always a one to two week gap near the end that cannot be compressed. Order everything before demolition and confirm it is physically in a warehouse, not merely ordered.

Where the schedule usually slips

The inspection. It is calendar time you do not control. In Montgomery County, build it into the plan rather than treating it as a surprise.

The waterproofing stage being rushed. Membranes have cure times. A crew pushed to tile the same day they waterproof is a crew creating a future failure, and this is the one stage where being behind schedule is better than being on it.

Grout and silicone at the end. Grout needs to cure before silicone goes in at the changes of plane, and silicone needs to cure before water hits it. The last three days of a bathroom look like nothing is happening. Something is.

For the cost side see walk-in shower remodel cost and bathroom tile installation and replacement cost.

Frequently asked questions

What comes first in a bathroom remodel?

Demolition, then rough plumbing, then rough electrical, then inspection, then waterproofing, then tile, then fixtures, then glass, then paint and trim. The order cannot be rearranged.

How long does a bathroom remodel take?

Two to four weeks on site for a standard bathroom. Moving plumbing adds one to two weeks. Shower glass adds a one to two week wait because it is templated after the tile is set.

Does tile go in before the vanity?

Yes. Tile the floor and walls first, then set the vanity and fixtures. Tiling under the vanity also makes a future vanity change straightforward.

When is the inspection in a bathroom remodel?

After rough plumbing and rough electrical and before anything is covered. If the walls close before inspection, they come back open.

Can you use the bathroom during the remodel?

No, from demolition until the fixtures are set, which is most of the project. In a one-bathroom house this is the single biggest practical consideration.

Planning the sequence? Bring your material list to our Derwood showroom and we will tell you what has to be ordered before demolition. Call (301) 939-0009 or book a showroom visit.